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Burlington Northern
Supporter (2016)
Pitanje za Amere..na snimku se jasno cuje da loksa ima zvuk turbine,nisam imao pojma da RS1 ima turbinu pa me zanima da li je ona zapravo imala turbinu ili ne?

Prilazem sliku jer se na snimku ova lok pojavljuje na kratko pa da ne postavljam snimak za dz..;)
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piše da je imala turbo motor
 

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Burlington Northern
Supporter (2016)
Loksa kao pravi model mi deluje jako staro pa sam posumnjao u verovatnoci da su im ugradjivali turbine...a zaboravih da potrazim podatke na netu:fp:

Jako zanimljivo zvuci sa turbinom iako ja nisam ljubitelj turbo zvuka na loksama!
 

Bero01

Veteran foruma
Kadee kopče su jedan od detalja zašto sam prešao na ameriku.
Realno kopčanje u mjerilu.
Kakvi qouratz kuplunzi stari i novi, kakvi profi, kakvi univerzal kuplunzi, kakvi bakrači....
Jedan kuplung da ih sve zakvačiš.
:vrag:
 

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Burlington Northern
Supporter (2016)
Kadee kopče su jedan od detalja zašto sam prešao na ameriku.
Realno kopčanje u mjerilu.
Kakvi qouratz kuplunzi stari i novi, kakvi profi, kakvi univerzal kuplunzi, kakvi bakrači....
Jedan kuplung da ih sve zakvačiš.
:vrag:
Vala da znas..gledam one kao profi ili kako ih zovu vec Fleishman nemam pojma.. maa..sve je to jako smesno spram Americkih kvacila!
Prvo sto su po uzoru na prava napravljeni prvo sto su estetski savrsena i imamo pravi dojam zeleznice!
Inace..video sam da dosta EU momcadi koristi USA kvacila;)
..i to izgleda sasvim ok!
 

Bero01

Veteran foruma
dodaj na listu i RP25 profile kotača...
a kad smo već kod toga, našao sam siku za ono postolje o kojem smo pričali;
to je booster koji daje dodatnu vučnu silu pri pokretanju teških vlakova, za željeznu rudu na primjer,
poput ove LS&I Consolidation 2-8-0
:dada:
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Thommo

 
Osoblje foruma
EDIT: Premješteno iz teme "Cinkova kuga"
http://www.malezeljeznice.net/forum/index.php?threads/cinkova-kuga.10352/

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Bero, evo primjer, ovaj tvoj PRR u Merchandise Service shemi - ako dobro vidim na vagonu piše X29 tip boxcara, dok ovaj Trix model nema veze s tim tipom vagona.
Hoću reći, vagon je točan, no bojanje nije, MaTrix korporacija ne brine puno da li je shema bojanja postojala ili ne - glavno da se proda. Zato vrlo često imaju popularne kompanije, PRR, UP, Santa Fe.

X29 je puno starija konstrukcija, iz 20-tih godina 20.st. - to je u biti prvi široko proizveden metalni boxcar. Dosta je niži od AAR boxcara koji je Trixov prototip. Ovako izgleda u standardnom PRR bojanju:
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i u MS bojanju. BTW u 1:1 proizvedeno ih je preko 30 000 komada!! :o
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Bero01

Veteran foruma
@Thommo Imaš taj Red Caboose model?
:slinim:
Znam za tu firmu, ali još nemam niti jedan njihov model, a vidio sam da rade par PGE modela,
koji su mi izmicali pri nabavkama, za sada!
:cool:
Pretpostavljam da je to jako dobro napravljeno!
Hoću reći, vagon je točan, no bojanje nije, MaTrix korporacija ne brine puno da li je shema bojanja postojala ili ne - glavno da se proda. Zato vrlo često imaju popularne kompanije, PRR, UP, Santa Fe.

Tipično za SVE velike korporacije, ne čudi me takav pristup. U vrijeme kada sam nabavljao Trix vagone,
bili su Best Buy i bio sam u prilici, a oni su bili u ponudi, pa sam ih piknuo...
treba našnitat iza Big Boya hrpu free rolling vagona, bar 50 - 60 komada...
Meni je veća zamjerka taj KKK, koji bi zapravo trebalo zaliti cijanoakrilatom, da se fiksira.
Neki ameri su čak micali kompletnu kinematiku, i ugrađivali KD šahtove, ali mislim da za sada nemam potrebu za tim.
Par kapi ljepila, i problem riješen.
Svejedno, ti vagoni su i dalje odlični modeli, po svim karakteristikama, i pri samom vrhu produkcije danas.
:)

PS - to ne znači da ne treba težiti boljem:usklicnik
 

Bero01

Veteran foruma
WOW, uvjerio si me da prvom prilikom nabavim pokoji komad!
:ljubav
To je došlo u kitu, ili su bili sastavljeni?
Ne mogu sada naći fotku u arhivi, a ni model na bayu....?
:cool:
Zapravo, imam jednu odličnu kratku staru cisternu, u zelenom bojanju,
i oznakama US Army, i čini mi se da je to njihov model, po kvaliteti izrade,
ali nisam 100 % siguran, jer je došla bez kutije.
 

Thommo

 
Osoblje foruma
Najava novog modela iz tvrtke Tangent Scale Models: https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/general-american-8000-gallon-1917-design-radial-course-tank-car/

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Live from Trainfest in Milwaukee WI: Tangent Scale Models is proud to introduce our next ALL-NEW freight car replica, the General American 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car. This is the first plastic radial course tank offered in HO plastic! (Radial course means the tank’s steel panels overlap each other, looking like “stairsteps”).

By the end of World War I, U.S. production of oil and oil-related products was sharply increasing thanks to the combination of war-related demands as well as demands from home. In order to move oil and new consumer products, tank car producers introduced new car designs. In 1917 General American Tank Car introduced a new general service 8,000 gallon non-insulated tank car. Built in East Chicago, IN, these cars were easily identifiable by their circumferential rivets that surrounded the tank body, with notably different heights between the courses. These “radial course” tank cars utilized steel bolster plates that rise up vertically to hold the tank in place, complete with a “web” section behind to minimize steel consumption. At a time of fairly monochromatic box cars plying the rails, most consumable products and oil shippers proudly displayed their company markings on the tanks. Additionally, tank car lessor firm Union Tank Line purchased a very large fleet of these cars as well, decorated in the distinctive UTLX “gold on black” scheme. Between UTLX, Deep Rock, and other schemes to come in future releases, think of this as the first “crude oil” tank car of consequence. The GATC 1917-design prototypes were the most prolific tank cars built during this period and were found everywhere from 1917 to roughly 1970.

The Tangent Scale Models GATC 1917-Design 8,000 Gallon General Service Tank Car is a highly-detailed tank car model that includes details accurate for each paint scheme, including KC- or AB-brake variations, with or without Cardwell draft sill springs, and different hand brakes. Other visually-distinctive details for our models include the “see through” bolster section, circumferential rivets, and differing course heights. Our RTR models include correct “true-to-life” colors and “hyper-accurate” lettering including exact fonts and lettering placement. Finally, our scale replicas operate as well as they look, equipped with free-rolling all-metal wheels and Kadee® scale couplers, meaning our models are truly ready to run.

Our new ready to operate replicas are available for sale now at www.tangentscalemodels.com and we are selling a small batch of these cars at Trainfest in Milwaukee on November 12-13. General shipping for the remainder of our cars will begin on December 13 – we are taking orders now so don’t miss out!

Whether wearing “plain” UTLX black lease colors or the colors of a lessee, these replicas will certainly be eye-catchers on your layout! Check out the radial courses – they look like nothing else in HO! Our first stunning release includes the following five paint schemes:

- AESX "Staley - Decatur" 1952+” in the attractive “A.E. STALEY MFG. CO.” scheme with the classy STALEY logo which states “Products from Staley’s corn and soybeans.” Also, DECATUR, ILLINOIS is proudly stenciled on the car. As always, this scheme comes directly off of a prototype car that matches our model. These tank cars delivered corn products to receivers nationwide, making them broadly applicable to almost every railroad in North America. Our STALEY 1952+ cars come with era-correct AB-brakes and are available in four road numbers.

- DRX "Deep Rock - Cushing" 1940+” in the attractive “DEEP ROCK” scheme with the properly rendered gold stenciling. These cars also feature the “CUSHING OKLA.” spelled out with white stenciling. The Deep Rock fleet was a large fleet numbering in the thousands and virtually all of them were this GATC prototype painted this way. Many of the tank cars during this era were painted in billboard schemes like this one. These tank cars delivered oil nationwide, making them broadly applicable to almost every railroad in North America. Our Deep Rock 1940+ stunners are available in six road numbers.

- GATX "Globe Soap – Cincinnati" 1920+” with nicely-rendered Globe Soap graphics on the side of the car, plus mention of “CINCINNATI OHIO” as the home town for the cars (Globe was eventually acquired by Procter and Gamble). While in today’s world it is hard to imagine soap products as a tank car commodity traveling by rail, remember that the combination of manufacturing and packaging practices, as well as pre-truck era, both contributed to tank cars being used for more than just oil-related commodities at that time in our nation’s history. This car is accurately stenciled for 1920 and likely lasted until the mid-1940s in this scheme, complete with era-appropriate K-brake system. These stunning cars are available in two road numbers.

- UTLX "Original 1920+" is one of two UTLX offerings in this production run: an “early” and a “later” car. Union Tank Car Company’s UTLX lease fleet was comprised of tank cars from a variety of builders, including several large orders for GATC tank cars. Numbering in the thousands, this fleet was part of the backbone of the large Standard Oil-owned fleet and are very relevant cars for those that need UTLX tanks – and more statistically relevant than the ACF prototypes you probably already have on your layout now (sorry, but it is true). These nationwide service cars include a 1920 paint date on the side of the car, and an era-correct K brake system. This UTLX lease scheme is available in six road numbers.

- UTLX "Black Repaint 1958+" is the second of two UTLX offerings in this production run. This scheme is the prototype repaint that was applied to UTLX cars in 1958. The car also includes an era-appropriate AB brake system. This UTLX lease scheme is available in four road numbers.

- Undecorated RTR Black cars are ready for decaling! Available December 13.

- Undecorated Unpainted Kits are available as well. When you gripe that “no one” makes kits anymore, well, here they are. These are ready for building or kitbashing, and decaling. Great for those who desire to build their own. Available December 13.

Features for these awesome replicas include:

- Circumferential riveted tank body and riveted underframe (count ‘em, there are many!)

- Radial course tank body – note the “stairstep” appearance!

- All-new underframe for the GATC 1917-design

- “See-through” cast knee above the bolsters

- Accurate dome appliances

- Dimensionally-correct hazardous placards with accurate hole detail

- Separately applied tank handrail

- Separately applied tank strap detail

- KC- or AB- brake variations depending on the prototype car

- Inclusion of Cardwell draft sill springs depending on the prototype car, otherwise “oval” frame openings where the springs were removed

- Different hand brake appliance options depending on the prototype car

- Highly correct “true to life” colors

- “Hyper-Accurate” lettering including exact fonts and lettering placement, including lettering applied to the underframe and air reservoir

- Durable wire grab irons and coupler lift bars

- Separate air hoses

- “Near-scale” draft gear box with side detail

- Kadee® “scale-head” couplers

- CNC-machined 33” wheels in high-quality Tangent Scale Models ASF cast steel truck with spring plank and with separate brake beams

- Replacement semi-scale wheels available separately from Tangent

- Multiple road numbers for each scheme - these cars often traveled in "groups" of more than one

- Recommended age 14 years and older

Don’t miss out on the Tangent Scale Models General American 8,000 gallon 1917-design radial course tank car! Just like its prototype, this car will stand out on any layout situated from 1917 to 1970, and they went everywhere!

Pricing for RTR models is $44.95. High-resolution images showing these fine replicas are available at www.tangentscalemodels.com and our site also includes prototype images for your reference as well.

That wraps up our update for today, and thank you for supporting the family-owned businesses in our industry!

David Lehlbach – live from Milwaukee WI at Trainfest!

Tangent Scale Models - “Unparalleled scale replicas for discriminating railroad modelers”

www.tangentscalemodels.com

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Osobno mišljenje: Tangent radi apsolutno najbolje i najdetaljnije modele USA vagona (ne računam neke ultra skupe mesing modele i slično).
Ni Tangent vagoni nisu jeftini, ali po meni vrijede svakog centa. Imam samo dva modela, razina detalja je da ne povjeruješ.
 

Bero01

Veteran foruma
@Thommo Odlični su! :palac_gore:
Pricing for RTR models is $44.95.
To je MSRP, znači da se na bayu vjerojatno daju naći i nešto jeftinije, treba malo potražiti.
:dada:
Meni su inače za oko zapeli True Line Trains http://www.truelinetrains.ca/
isto kao nova američka produkcija, sa vrhunskim detaljima, a i cijena je tu negdje.
Naravno da rade par ''mojih'' vrlo rijetkih BCOL vagona, pa sam na mukama.
E ovog ne možeš NE vidjeti! Blješti !!!!
:o
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Našao sam dva komada u jednom ebay shopu, sa različitim brojevima po nekih 37 USD,
iako je MSRP 54 USD.
:slinim:
 
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Thommo

 
Osoblje foruma
Kanadska firma Rapido ( http://rapidotrains.com/ ) ima ludog vlasnika, on je u duši modelar a ne samo biznismen - zato su njihovi modeli bolesno točni, ide se do najmanjih detalja, ali cijena ostaje na razinama s ostalima, recimo dostupna običnim smrtnicima... Nedavno je izašao motornjak RDC, ajmo reći sjevernoamerički Šinobus. Scene iz kineske tvornice:

Video prezentacija RDC-a
 

Bero01

Veteran foruma
@Thommo :palac_gore:

To je jako dobra vijest, koju sam nešto ranije spomenuo u temi o BCR i PGE,
jer će se sada na tržištu, tj. na evilBayu pojaviti rabljeni modeli tih vlakova od Walthersa
odnosno Proto1000 po prihvatljivim cijenama. Rapido je jako lijep, ali nije baš jeftin; osobito
sada kada ih još nema na Sale-u ili rabljenih.
 

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